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I am very sorry the forum has been temporarily closed. All necessary work has been completed
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Great to be back! Thanks a lot Downton and your team for the hard work you did meanwhile!
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(Squeals like a teen...) ...Michael Bublé!  (...swoons...)
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Ow, Twilight, and then you didn't even know my plans to add his latest on the together we're Strong thread.
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Are the rules for this forum the same as for the official closing down one (as quoted in this thread - https://www.unofficialtownshipforum.com/t84-forum-rules-important-please-read-before-posting#955)?

I'm specifically wondering about the ones about posting in English, and the not mentioning any other groups.
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@JJay wrote:
Are the rules for this forum the same as for the official closing down one (as quoted in this thread - https://www.unofficialtownshipforum.com/t84-forum-rules-important-please-read-before-posting#955)?

I'm specifically wondering about the ones about posting in English, and the not mentioning any other groups.

Hey JJay, Posting in English is preferable. It just makes it easier to have a default language. Also it means players looking for any info on the site are able to find it if it is here, with the search tool if English has been used. However like on the Playrix forum we will try our best with the aid of google translate to communicate with players who are struggling with this.

The main reason it would be considered a rule break on the Unofficial Forum would be if it was being very obviously used to exclude others from the conversation.

As for mentioning groups. As so many other places have been kind enough to mention our forum, mentioning other reputable Township groups such as FB ones, wiki etc and giving a link is okay. 

We would just ask members not to constantly promote another group for the sake of it, and make sure you trust the place you reference. We would also prefer not to have links in signatures, unless it is to a useful topic on this site or a wiki township page.

In fact I think it is very important to acknowledge a group/source of any info shared here.

I hope this helps clarifies those rules Very Happy


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Awesome work.  You needn't apologize for teething pains.  I was amazed how quickly you all got this forum up and running to start with.  Imo, a little tweaking and fixing as we get startled is to be expected.
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Downton Admin wrote:
@JJay wrote:
Are the rules for this forum the same as for the official closing down one (as quoted in this thread - https://www.unofficialtownshipforum.com/t84-forum-rules-important-please-read-before-posting#955)?

I'm specifically wondering about the ones about posting in English, and the not mentioning any other groups.

Hey JJay, Posting in English is preferable. It just makes it easier to have a default language.Also it means players looking for any info on the site are able to find it if it is here, with the search tool if English has been used. However like on the Playrix forum we will try our best with the aid of google translate to communicate with players who are struggling with this.
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The main reason it would be considered a rule break on the Unofficial Forum would be if it was being very obviously used to exclude others from the conversation.

As for mentioning groups. As so many other places have been kind enough to mention our forum, mentioning other reputable Township groups such as FB ones, wiki etc and giving a link is okay. 

We would just ask members not to constantly promote another group for the sake of it, and make sure you trust the place you reference. We would also prefer not to have links in signatures, unless it is to a useful topic on this site or a wiki township page.

In fact I think it is very important to acknowledge a group/source of any info shared here.

I hope this helps clarifies those rules Very Happy

Ok. Thanks for replying. Personally I think it's a shame that some of the things I disliked most about the official forum are being brought here when this was a chance to create a new friendly, multilingual, space for all players to share advice and info. But anyway, glad to see you've managed to get it up and running again.
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@JJay wrote:

Ok. Thanks for replying. Personally I think it's a shame that some of the things I disliked most about the official forum are being brought here when this was a chance to create a new friendly, multilingual, space for all players to share advice and info. But anyway, glad to see you've managed to get it up and running again.

I amended my quote in your post @JJay as I was editing it while you were writing too Very Happy

Everyone is welcome here JJay, but like I added searching for stuff on the forum won't work properly if there are many languages being used and it could get very confusing.

We also have to consider the Moderators as well. It is a big job for them to constantly monitor the forum and dealing with translating lots of posts would really add to their workload.

Unfortunately as a new forum it just isn't possible to promote everyone using their own language, no matter how much I would love to. Maybe in the future Very Happy

ETA Just to add, we don't have Mods yet Smile


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Awesome work.  You needn't apologize for teething pains.  I was amazed how quickly you all got this forum up and running to start with.  Imo, a little tweaking and fixing as we get startled is to be expected.

Thanks @Mayfield. Glad you guys are so understanding Very Happy

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Think here feels very welcoming. Personally I would ask that anyone unable to post in English provides a translation of their original-saves mods having to translate to check not spam. 
Am hopeful there will be fewer removed posts here, but we as users also have an obligation not to say anything actionable.
As to the be respectful to admins.....damn, was looking forward to calling them something Chaucerian 😂😂😂
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.........As to the be respectful to admins.....damn, was looking forward to calling them something Chaucerian 😂😂😂

Lol, we'll take that @JayS rofl,lol rofl,lol rofl,lol
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Hi Ethan

I'm sorry but I needed to remove your post and the replies. It isn't allowed to discuss admin/mod/webmaster changes on the forum. I know this sounds like a harsh rule, but it is really just to protect those involved in any difficult decisions.

The forum is still getting set up, so lot's of changes will naturally be happening. Where it is fair to everyone involved with any changes that take place, we will always try and keep everyone on the forum updated about them. 


I would like to say though, that regardless what position someone holds on the forum. Everyone is doing an awesome job building a new home here for all of us Very Happy


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@JayS wrote:
Think here feels very welcoming. Personally I would ask that anyone unable to post in English provides a translation of their original-saves mods having to translate to check not spam. 
Am hopeful there will be fewer removed posts here, but we as users also have an obligation not to say anything actionable.
As to the be respectful to admins.....damn, was looking forward to calling them something Chaucerian 😂😂😂

That's one of the other things I was hoping for - fewer posts removed. 

Obviously I don't want anyone to be rude to anyone else, whether they're an admin or not! 

Maybe it would be useful to get mods who spoke languages other than English. I'm a member of a couple of foreign language township groups and I've seen various posts in them about the closing down forum, about how it's difficult for them to join and people hardly ever replied. Which is a shame because it was supposed to be an international forum. Both of these groups state that they're for people who speak a certain language (I don't but I use Google translate because I find them interesting) Or maybe this group should say it's for English speakers?
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Language(s):
First - All are welcome!
Second - English is one of the most widely used languages and as such the reason a lot of forums (not all obviously) subscribe to it as a default. This keeps things, for the most part, uniformed.
Next - Translation of Other Languages: Use Google Translate, quote and translate the language to English, reply back in English and translate answer as well.

Personally, I have had so much fun translating languages!  Razz  It is lovely to see where people are from and to try and help them in their native tongue. Smile

Manners - No this isn't Playrix.  However, imho, we should still hold ourselves to a standard of decency.  My personal preference is not to read foul language.


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I have no problem with anyone using their own language to post, especially if they need help.
Isn’t that what the forum is about..helping each other.

I totally agree that bad language should never be used, no matter how frustrated or angry we feel, there is absolutely no need for it. We should always be mindful that somebody may be offended, whether intended or not.

Bad language aside, we also need to be mindful of how we see/read a post.
There are no emotions or facial expressions in the written word.
Sometimes we can read a post and feel angry or sad, even though that is not intended by the writer.
Personally I have learnt over the years to back out of the thread, come back later and read again, often it will read entirely different and that anger or sadness isn’t there.

I didn’t see Ethans post so cannot comment on what was said. 
However I am confident the admins removed the posts and replies as they deemed it to be breaking the rules of the forum which are in place to ensure everyone is happy, not offended and the forum runs smoothly.
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Twilight and Cuddz - if you're responding to my post, that was purely a response to JayS's post above. I hadn't even seen what Downton had written (or Ethan) so have no opinion on it. 

I still think that to be welcoming any language should be encouraged Twilight. Yes, English is quite common, but it's by no means the most common language in the world.

I absolutely agree that there's no room for foul language here (or anywhere else for that matter), and that we should all be sensitive to different cultures.

And I also agree Cuddz that the written language doesn't always convey the true meaning of what we're trying to say - especially if we're trying to say it in a language that's not our own.
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Hi @JJay, we have managed to add a google translate tool to the forum. I know it still won't be what you hoped for (everyone encouraged to communicate in their own language), but I hope it makes the forum more accessible for everyone.

I have read of a lot of other forum Admins, who are struggling to translate their forums into one language. The reason being the multi languages being used on their forums has put a lot of people off using it, as it has ended up jumbled and difficult for them to use.

I do love your idea, and maybe it would work on an established forum, with more resources. As a new forum though, it just isn't practical. 

I do hope the google translate tool makes the forum a much more pleasant and comfortable place for everyone to use.  Though at this point English will still be the default language Smile
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Sorry JJay, no I wasn’t particularly replying to your post.
I read all posts as I always do when I come into a thread.
I then reply in general.
Although if I want to say something direct I will either quote the writer or name them.
Sorry for the confusion
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