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This week, it's very easy for me to delay start. I'm planning on starting last day so I don't have to fight all week for 1st place. I just have to avoid the heli, the mine,  coconuts, sweaters and sugarcane....but look! Today's daily task for Beach Vacation indicates a push to begin ROC! This is too much of a coincidence,  don't you think? Maybe not. Heli task has been appearing as daily tasks before. But the sweater task is making me paranoid.  😄
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Delayed Start ROC I_icon_minitimeThu 17 Jun 2021 - 16:26 #2

the ROC starts when 1 task is fully completed, so you can do 2 blue sweaters for beach and still not start until you do the 3rd for ROC.

this is our prep strategy for starting... we do most and have the rest ready to pull off the factory shelf, or off the boat, or to harvest when we are ready to go.

good luck. let us know how this works for you... if it makes it easy or lands you in a crazy group.

also, have you seen the ROC prep chart? it helps to pre-load factories and boats. helped us shoot ahead day 1 in 1st critical hours. now we are trying to maintain lead in long crazy tasks...
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Delayed Start ROC I_icon_minitimeThu 17 Jun 2021 - 21:46 #3

Yes! The prep chart is awesome....my little car speeds way ahead in 1st ever since I started using the prep list. I will let you know how it goes. Sometimes I do land late in a group. Sometimes I'm placed in a group first. It's always a crap shoot. My first ROC tasks are easy to avoid this week so I figured it's a good week to delay. 🤞
Oh, and I did do the beach vacation tasks. It's just scary having only a few heli orders left before task is complete. I already messed up 2 times and filled 2 orders without thinking. So now I'm 8/10. Gotta stay focused from here on out. Must. Stay. Focused! 🙄😳
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Delayed Start ROC I_icon_minitimeSun 20 Jun 2021 - 0:07 #4

@Rainglaze I hope you post a follow-up to your strategy of delaying the start of ROC tasks. If nothing else you should avoid the worst of the difficult tasks.

This is my last ROC at any rate - Yay!  cheers
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Delayed Start ROC I_icon_minitimeSun 20 Jun 2021 - 16:30 #5

My co-op has always began ROC right away with usually 3 of us hardcore playing. We have always been gold except this time, we are 6th! I always say never again but I end up playing since I'm the leader and the other 2 want to race. I just wish the prizes for 4th and below were somewhat decent.
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Delayed Start ROC I_icon_minitimeMon 21 Jun 2021 - 5:26 #6

@Matmat wrote:
My co-op has always began ROC right away with usually 3 of us hardcore playing. We have always been gold except this time, we are 6th!  I always say never again but I end up playing since I'm the leader and the other 2 want to race. I just wish the prizes for 4th and below were somewhat decent.

sounds like you landed in a competitive hard racing grouping.

I have been wondering how groupings are formed. are they ranked in similar ways regatta groups are formed by algorithms that seem to put the most competitive teams together; e.g. teams that usually do 16x135 quickly. there is some evidence that you can downgrade into easier regatta groupings by staying lower within top 12 if your team cant hit top 3... or even by dropping down to silver.

Or... are ROC groups simply formed by time entered when 1st task completed?  if so, then it might make sense to delay entry and join after the eager teams start early.

delay start strategy.
we have done this 3 times now. we prep all except the last 1 or 2 for each task. F. ex, 25 helicopters, we do 23 and hold off finishing the last 2 until we decide to start.

race hard and fast day 1 to pull ahead
so delay the start until you have time to rapidly whip through the tasks... i think @Mic Miller once described this as a brute force strategy. that you get so far ahead, they can't catch up... further into the race, everyone gets mired in long tasks and it gets tougher to catch up once you hit the long tasks... and if you are leading... keep going.  

we have so far pulled 1st each race... but if we dropped well below 3rd, we would probably lay off and just do normal game play because the prizes below 3rd are puny...  and... just in case the algorithm for groupings has a look back to prior races.

the factory goods chart for prep ahead
this most of all helps us pull ahead quickly with instant tasks during the early race before tasks get big and slow. along with managing feed, sending ships ahead or holding, holding trains and planes, various strategies all add up... some of it is a guess but can help pull the lead...

this race we delayed until 1 pm Lisbon time, pulled ahead 400 points or so day 1... then fluctuated 250 - 350 points ahead several days until the last couple days now holding 500+ point lead since yesterday. today we have just been restocking... impossible for teams 2 and 3 to catch up without spending crazy tc... but we haven't seen any teams do that yet.

day 1 lead with quick easy fast tasks, and last day holding lead with crazy long tasks... we are not doing our final tasks like the silk growing task that popped up after we finished the tennies.

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Delayed Start ROC I_icon_minitimeMon 21 Jun 2021 - 9:35 #7

Great tips, just4fun. Prepping and going at it hard 1st day is a must for ROC...I usually place 1st each time. I delay start at least to day 2. Last month I raced in solo group and placed 1st with 1942 points. 2nd had 1708, 3rd had 1414. My lead started day one. Whenever I opened the game,, I just did tasks as they popped up.
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Delayed Start ROC I_icon_minitimeMon 21 Jun 2021 - 10:03 #8

As a follow up for this week, I set my alarm to wake up 4 min before end of ROC. Now THAT was a race! I glanced at where I was after I completed 3 tasks...I was in in a pack of 4 or 5. No idea of the score. I ended up placing 4th. I had 69 points and top 3 had 127, 127 and 80. I stupidly messed up trying to do a 2nd helicopter task. There wasn't time for that. The 1st one was fine because I already had 9/10 done. I also should have noticed I couldn't complete chili sauce bc it was for 14 and I only had 4 in factory.

Besides a week of fearing that I would accidentally start ROC before I wanted to, this was the first time I had fun with this race. I will definitely try it again if I have a starting group of tasks like I did this week. But next time, I think I will start ROC a little sooner. Maybe 15 min before the end.

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Delayed Start ROC I_icon_minitimeMon 21 Jun 2021 - 16:54 #9

wow @Rainglaze intense! 4 mins of insanity... and fun...lol. look forward to the 15min version results!

the task 'luck of the draw' huge impact on this, especially any instant factory goods tasks that want 8 or less. seems we had a few show up, although never paid much particular attention to that... seem to recall 8 purple blankets, maybe the rose boquets. Will notice that next time... 14 pepper sauce is a bad draw for 4 mins racing... 15 mins sounds good.
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Delayed Start ROC I_icon_minitimeMon 21 Jun 2021 - 21:17 #10

Yes,  I thought 15 chili pepper was a lot for beginning of race too. I was so excited, I checked my factory for it but I should have checked the amt on board first.  It really was a rush racing for 4 min.  I loved it, even tho I ended up with crap prizes for 4th. I was happy not to be placed late in a group though.
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Delayed Start ROC I_icon_minitimeWed 29 Sep 2021 - 17:38 #11

regarding delay strategy....

we started accidentally 14 hrs after race available, and landed in a group that looks like they also started accidentally as no one else is actively racing...  (at this point in race, other teams all have 21 points or less...)
-- so, if you leave race settings on and play casually, possible you might land in a non-racing comp and able to easily snag top 3.Delayed Start ROC Screen22

with regard to how groups are formed - observation
- regatta 4th week we dropped to silver league. for ROC, our group is all silver league teams (so we were placed with active regatta players... who seemingly are not paying attention to the ROC = an easy ROC 1st place win for us this time.)
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